Hate it or love it, Hollywood needs more movies likeThe Spy Who Dumped Me, a big, badass original story that’s obviously funny—what else do you expect, with leads likeMila KunisandKate McKinnon?—but isn’t afraid to go balls-to-the-wall with a fewMission-esque set-pieces. It’s a marvelous non-Marvel action movie made even more impressive by the fact directorSusanna Fogel—who also wrote the script along withDavid Iserson—cut her teeth on low-budgets likeLife Partnersand episodes of the Freeform series she created,Chasing Life. I recently sat down with the director to get a sense of how one mixes indie sensibilities with a globe-hopping spy caper.

In the following interview with the filmmaker, we discussed the role of original stories in a franchise-fueled landscape, turning an action-heavy script into reality, writing vs. directing, and finding the heart of a big-budget film. Watch the player above for the full interview. Below is a list of everything we discussed:

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Here’s the official synopsis forThe Spy Who Dumped Me:

Audrey (Mila Kunis) and Morgan (Kate McKinnon), two thirty-year-old best friends in Los Angeles, are thrust unexpectedly into an international conspiracy when Audrey’s ex-boyfriend shows up at their apartment with a team of deadly assassins on his trail. Surprising even themselves, the duo jump into action, on the run throughout Europe from assassins and a suspicious-but-charming British agent, as they hatch a plan to save the world.

For more one-on-one interview with the cast ofThe Spy Who Dumped Me, check out below:

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